Melania Trump's Epstein Connections Finally EXPOSED (Derrick Broze on Redacted)

Recently, first lady Melania Trump held a press conference and she said she had never had anything to do with Jeffrey Epstein. It was a totally out of the blue moment and we don't know what it was about. Specifically, she said she had never been friends with Epstein. She said that she and the president were invited to the same parties from time to time and that it was just overlapping social circles, which is common. Okay, well, investigative, investigative journalist Derek Bro says there's more to it. He says there have been connections between Melania and her longtime friend Amanda Ungaro, who posted this just before the first Lady's announcement. So who is Amanda Ungaro? Well, she was close friends with Melania before she was deported with the help of her ex husband, Paulo Zampoli. Now, incidentally, Zampoli was appointed by President Trump recently as the special envoy for global partnerships. How does this all connect to Epstein? Derek Bros joins us today to tell the story. Thank you so much for joining us.

Hey, thank you for having me on again, Natalie. I appreciate it.

Always a pleasure. So let's walk through this on Garo relationship because he is still close to the Trumps and he does have the power apparently to get his ex wife deported. And she has been making waves in international press and not surprisingly, the US Press has been ignoring her. So can we just sort of start from the beginning at who she is, the Brazilian model and then her connections?

Absolutely. So she is, as you said, a former Brazilian model. She was originally, you know, the Epstein connection starts from the beginning of her career. She was 15 years old when she was first brought to the US on Epstein's plane. And her modeling agent at that time was Jean Luc Brunel of the M Squared M2 modeling agency. For those who've been following the Epstein saga and the Epstein network for years, you've probably heard that name. He was sort of the French connection to this. And as I point out in the article, Jean Luc Brunel has actually been under suspicion and had accusations of abusing young girls and models going back to 1988, when 60 Minutes actually put out a report called American Girls in Paris. Of course, nothing ever came of it and he continued on abusing people and continued to be a part of Epstein, Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell's network. He was later on arrested shortly after Jeffrey Epstein, and we are told he also also allegedly killed himself while waiting to go to trial in a French prison. But it was him who brought Amanda Ungaro over to the US On Epstein's plane. She says she you know, saw Jeffrey Epstein, saw a bunch of young girls around him, didn't really know who he was. She doesn't claim to have any sort of interaction or that she was abused by him. But it was through that connection that she ended up meeting her future husband, and now ex husband, Paolo Zimpoli, who is an Italian businessman who is also involved with the modeling world. As the recent Epstein files and emails have shown us, that Paolo Zampoli actually was trying to buy a modeling agency called Elite Management with Jeffrey Epstein. And this was reported decades ago, but now we have email confirmation of this showing them discussing this. That never happened, but. So Paulo Zimpoli himself, he's involved in the modeling world. She's brought over. She eventually goes back to Brazil as a young girl. And you can even find, I think it's a Vanity Fair article from the early 2000s where Paulo Zimpoli references an unnamed young model, Brazilian model, who he was falling in love with. And he said she was only 17 at the time, and he was sending her East Easter gifts and flowers and presents, and he couldn't wait for her, you know, to be of age. And nobody thought it was odd at the time, I guess, but that ended up being her. You know, they ended up getting married and they now have a child together. And during that time, Paolo Zampoli and Amanda Ngaro, as you showed a moment ago with some of the pictures, there's dozens and dozens of pictures. I don't think these are just random, kind of. They hung out at a party one time. They seem to be very close. And Amanda Ngaro's words, the. The Secret Service would bring her son birthday gifts from Melania. They would hang out, they would spend a lot of time together. And Amanda Ngaro, as you mentioned there, the day before this random press conference from Melania, she started tweeting out and posting, not only tagging Pam Bondi and others, but saying to Melania directly on some of her various Twitter accounts, on the first lady accounts, saying, you know that I know your secrets. You know I'm going to expose you. She since deleted some of those tweets, but there are still others that are up. She does have a Twitter account. She has only retweeted a few people. You can go. If you go to her account, you can look at her replies and sort of see the different comments she's made. But she has started to speak up to international media. She gave interviews to O Globo and Brazil, to El Pais and Spain. And then most recently, she's done interviews for the network rai, which is the Italian sort of state media that has been doing this ongoing series on Paolo Zimpoli because of course, he's an Italian citizen. The first episode of that was called the Epstein War. The second one that came out last weekend was called the Shark. And there was another one that just came out this weekend, but it was not specifically related to Amanda and Garo. And it's in those interviews that Amanda is now saying that she believes that there is a pact between Melania and Paulo Zampoli specifically to basically look after each other and, and cover up each other's potential crimes. And the, the sort of underlying claim here is that Jeffrey Epstein was the one who actually introduced Donald Trump to Melania Trump. Now, of course, in that press conference, Melania has said this is false. She's actually been suing different people. She sued a book publisher in the U.K. she sued the Daily Mail back in 2016 because they said that she was, she used to be a high priced escort. This is when Trump was first running and she successfully sued them and got that article taken down. But, but Amanda is suggesting that there may be some truth to this claim that Epstein introduced the two of them. And actually in the Epstein files, Epstein himself says this in one of the emails. But the official story, according to the Trumps, is that was Paulo Zimpoli at a party that introduced the two of them. And that's what they're sticking by. But it appears, at least according to Amanda, and there was also a recorded, a leaked phone call where Paulo Zoli himself mentions some type of agreement. He said he signed a confidentiality agreement and basically he would never turn his back on the Trumps, that, you know, they helped reward him with jobs in the first administration and now in the second administration for him speaking up and defending Melania. And he references a pact or an agreement. And so we don't have the solid details, the solid evidence yet, but signs are definitely pointing in the direction that Melania, or both, maybe Melania and Donald Trump made some type of agreement with Palo Zan Poli. And again, Amanda Ngaro is claiming it's related to the truth about who introduced, you know, Melania to Donald Trump. And Paulo in this leaked call seems to reference that as well. And I just want to make one other quick note here, you know, for those who might be hearing this and say, okay, Derek, what does this have to do with, you know, the, the price of food or the price of gas? How is this going to affect my daily life? This just sounds like a bunch of rich people gossip or celebrity gossip. I understand that. But I think if you really put this into the context of what we're discussing here, if Jeffrey Epstein and his network, which we know is connected to intelligence, most likely Israeli intelligence and was all around the world abusing people through fashion and through modeling, if it was Jeffrey Epstein and that network who brought Melania over or at least played a role in that, and then introduced the now current President of the United States to her, and she is now the first lady of the President of the United States, that's a pretty high level for this network to have infiltrated. And I think that's, that's really the concern here is the implications of if it's true that Epstein was the one who introduced Melania to Donald Trump and if it's true that Paolo Zimpoli was indeed involved in some sort of pact to cover that up to defend the Trumps. Because after that press conference, just as one more example, he said, I'll testify in US in front of US Congress, I am willing to share my story. So he's been a loyal friend to them and repeating this story over and over to make sure people know I'm the one who did it. And it is potentially that they are just covering up for what really happened recently.

Paolo Zampoli had his ex wife deported. So that I guess you could wonder. Here's the question. I'm not the assertion, but the question, did he try to take her and move her far away from the United States where she can't say what she needs to say? Obviously the Internet doesn't work that way, but it would be convenient. Now, he said that, you know, all I did was I didn't do anything. But the New York Times reported that he did call Department of Homeland Security. He says she's a liar because all Latin ladies are liars. That's incredibly offensive to me as a Latin. But okay, what do you think was. Can you explain that bit a little bit better than I just did?

Yeah, sure. So as you mentioned, the New York Times a couple months ago, they reported that Paolo Zampoli, according to their sources within ice, had called some had called an official and said, hey, this case of this woman, Amanda Ngaro, is very important to the President, very important to the White House. Now, Amanda had already been previously arrested last year in 2025 with her, I believe it's her, her new husband. They were running a clinic in Miami and they were arrested allegedly on fraud charges for doing cosmetic surgery without A license. Now, those claims haven't been, you know, adjudicated in court, but Amanda has stated on social media that those charges are completely trumped up and that that was basically the doing of Paolo, using his connections to get them to come after her in order for her to get arrested and then for him to say, hey, this lady's in, in jail. The president and the White House would really love this case to be sped up. And so it's potentially that she would have been deported anyways based on those charges and those accusations. They officially say she had an expired visa, but it definitely appears that Palo Zompoli at least expedited the process. And he does admit that he called ice. He just claims he didn't tell them to get rid of her. He just said he was checking on the case. Because, you know, the. I think one of the worst parts of it is that they do have a son together, a young son. His name is Giovanni. And you can see it appears like in my perspective, Paulo's and Poly is kind of using him as a prop. He uses him a lot of his Twitter post and showing him there. And also I think it might be a way to sort of jab at Amanda like, hey, I've got our son here. Because obviously, since Amanda was deported to Brazil, she does not have custody of her son. Now Paulo is Paulo's and police flying around Italy and other places and has their son with them. So if this, these other pieces of the puzzle are true, that there was a pact and that it somehow relates to Epstein introducing Melania or something else that we might not even be aware of at the moment, then yes, it's convenient for him to get his ex wife deported and say, see, she's not a fit mother. She's being deported by ice. You know, I need full custody of my son. And, and I will also say that just as of this morning, I noticed there's another researcher on Twitter. His name's Anthony Andrews. I think he also has a substack. He's been talking about this as well. And he actually received a cease and deceased desist letter about four days ago from Palos and Poly's attorneys threatening him with, you know, further action, legal action, if he doesn't take down all of his tweets about Paulo's Empoli and issue a public apology. Now, I haven't received anything like this yet, but it just shows you a sign that he's. He's definitely very aware of the chatter that's going on. And, and I don't Think he has any legal grounds. People have freedom of speech to say what they want. I don't. Anthony Andrews doesn't seem to be just making things up. He's reporting and asking the same questions that I am here, which I think are based on evidence. You know, if Amanda's giving interviews to the Italian media, saying she believes based on her experience as a friend of Melania, knowing both the Trumps and this being her ex husband, that there was a pact, that there was agreement, she specifically said something to the effect that, you know, after the Trumps came into office, then Paulo's and Poly got a boost and, you know, they started getting all this love from them, but now Melania is essentially turning her back on her. That's how she's framing it. And then again, I will mention that the second report from Italian media includes a leaked audio of a phone call that Pablo's in Poly is having with another friend where he's specifically discussing this and he's talking about some arrangement. If I can let me just quote him real quick, so I don't want to misquote him. He says, I wrote the document for the President and for the First Lady. They used it for the speech. This is in reference to the Daily Mail lawsuit back in 2017 with the Daily Mail. We just won an enormous case. An enormous case. I can't talk about it because I have a confidentiality agreement and I still have to cash the check we won last week. I am in this country thanks to President Trump. He gave me a job. I started in real estate, built myself a nice house. I would never betray a friend. So, you know, take that how you will. We'll see if Amanda speaks further. I have heard some whispers in the wind that she is potentially going to be is trying to speak to some politicians to see if she can be brought in front of the US Congress for a hearing in front of a committee. We'll see if that pans out, but that's where it's at right now. And I think that this, again, we can't prove for certain, but I think this might be a piece of the puzzle. When all of us were wondering, why did Melania just give this random press conference? She was kind of in the shadows and nobody was really talking about her. If anything, she brought more attention to this and the mainstream media reports that Trump didn't even know she was going to give that press conference. Who knows how much of that is true? But either way, this situation with Amanda Ungaro may be part of the reason why she chose to speak up right now.

Right. I mean, it just makes me feel like what you resist persists. You talked about how in 1996, when Melania was brought over as a model on a contract, she was sponsored by Paolo Zampoli and she was awarded the so called Epstein Visa. Can you please explain that?

It's actually the Einstein. Einstein.

Oh, sorry. Einstein Visa. Sorry, I read it wrong.

Maybe it should be renamed.

Exactly.

But so that Einstein Visa is, as the name implies, supposed to be for really brilliant people, not only academically, but I did look further into it, and it says people who are excelling in their fields, and it doesn't mention anything about excelling in the field of modeling. I mean, not to say that couldn't qualify, but it seems very odd for people that this specific visa, which is supposed to be for people who are the brightest and brilliant minds in the academic world and science and even in sports and things like that. So I guess you could kind of stretch it and say, well, she was this elite model and so she qualified under the Einstein visa. But there have been questions for years about how that happened and who pulled what strings. But yes, Paolo Zimpoli was her original sponsor to help her get into the United States. And so. And again, what I'm about to say is complete speculation at the moment. There are definitely other people on the Internet who will claim this is true. I don't think we can prove it, but there has long been suspicion that Melania was one of potentially Epstein's victims, brought over and as a model and, and eventually, you know, introduced to Donald Trump and now in the White House. Now, again, that may be where some of this, this rabbit hole leads eventually. But at the moment, we have Epstein himself saying that he's the one who introduced them. We have this discussion of a pact between Melania and Paulo Zimpoli, both in his, you know, talking about a confidentiality agreement, and his ex wife saying that she believed there was a pact based on everything she saw. And there's also another confidential source that was in the FBI and the FBI document dumps recently that also mentions Melania being introduced to Trump by Epstein. So at this moment, it's he said, she said. But I think that, you know, the questions are not answered, and hopefully Amanda will be willing to speak up soon. I will also note, as I do in my article, and she has been hinting that she has a book coming up soon. And so some of her detractors or critics are saying, oh, she's just, you know, trying to drag this out for book sales or something? I don't know. I don't claim to know, but she seems to be preparing to to speak up more. She posted recently a picture of herself at the gym, said the comeback begins now. So who knows what she's preparing for. Like I said, there's been whispers of her potentially getting in front of the US Congress. I don't know what that would entail since she was deported by ice, if they can legally bring her back now, or what that exactly would look, or if it would just be a remote interview as the media has been doing. But I plan to stay on this and the article that we're covering today, people can find it at thelastamericanvagabon.com and I plan to follow if there are any more updates.

Right. Here's a screenshot of it. It's called the Zampoli Melania Amanda Ungaro Epstein connections and the leaked phone call. Thank you so much for bringing this to us. It's tricky, but there are smoking guns here that we are owed answers. So thank you. Derek Brose, always a pleasure.

Thank you.